Is God Really Timeless? Considering the Relationship Between God and Time: Doctrinal Dilemmas
Genesis 1:1 proclaims that God created the heavens and the earth at a moment in time before which nothing material existed. But how well does a coherent notion of God’s timeless eternity comport with this settled understanding of God’s instantaneous cosmic creativity?
If God is eternally timeless, then all of his actions must also occur timelessly. But this entails that the universe could not really have a temporal beginning. Paul Helm, an enthusiastic advocate of timeless eternity, agrees that, according to the notion of timelessness, “there need be no temporal first moment of creation, and so the universe need not have begun (temporally) to exist, for from the divine standpoint, the universe is eternal, even though it exists contingently” (God and Time: Four Views, 49). Therefore, although the universe is contingent upon God, “there need be no moment at which the temporal world springs into being” (Helm, 49).
Helm dismisses the need for a temporal beginning of creation, preferring to speak in terms of its eternal contingency:
If the universe is beginningless, without a first event, it does not follow from this that it is not contingent; and if it is contingent, then it has a cause, although not a temporal cause, but someone on whom it depends for its existence (50).
Thus, to maintain a consistent notion of divine timeless eternity, we may only think of God as the atemporal source of an eternally contingent universe, not as the immediate temporal cause of an instantaneously created one. As a result, rather than use the language of time to explicate God’s relationship to the creation, Helm argues that “it is better…to say that God has a timelessly eternal relationship with the temporal world, but a relationship that is nevertheless contingent” (49). He concludes that “there was no time when the Creator was not, any more than there was a time when the creation was not. And yet the Creator exists ‘before’ the creation” (52).
Unfortunately, Helm’s position flies in face of the biblical data. A major reason for this is that the view of time that he must assume in order to remain consistent is a static one. Within philosophy, the static theory of time maintains that all facts, episodes, and events within the "history" of the universe exist timelessly. As opposed to the dynamic theory of time, which holds that tensed time (that is, past, present, or future) is a real property of the universe, the static theory asserts that all facts exist simultaneously and without tense (that is, timelessly).
According to the dynamic theory, the past exists no longer and the future does not yet exist. The static theory, on the other hand, claims that all facts, events, and episodes exist concurrently without duration or change in ontological status. Facts or events never really go out of existence or come into being. They always exist, and only seem to us to disappear into the “past” or to appear in the “future.” If the static view is true, then our empirical experience of “time passing” is false.
Therefore, Helm may claim that the universe is eternal yet contingent only within a static theory of time. If God has no temporal relationship with world, that is, if both he and his act of creation are timeless, then all facts must exist simultaneously and timelessly as well. This means that the Son of God would be eternally incarnate. This is exactly what Helm claims when he argues that “if God the Son is timelessly eternal and yet incarnate in Jesus Christ, there is no time in his existence when he was not incarnate” (54). He adds that “there is no preexistent Christ with a life history independent of and prior to the incarnation. There is no time when the eternal God was not Jesus of Nazareth” (54).
Helm concludes with the astonishing assertion that “there is no time at which the Son of God exists in a preincarnate form” (50). Helm’s conclusion is problematic given the biblical claim that the Word was with God in the beginning and subsequently became flesh. Worse yet, it would seem that Christ would still be incarnate on the cross, since the crucifixion is a timeless event, existing in an “eternal present,” for which the designation of “past” is illusory. If this is true, then arguably, we are still in our sins, since Christ’s work is eternally unfinished! (J. Oliver Buswell, A Systematic Theology of the Christian Religion, vol. 1, 47)
Furthermore, a static view of time threatens our doctrine of God’s omniscience. If God is timelessly eternal and all facts exist timelessly, then God could only know that fact or event A exists prior to fact or event B, but could not know that either fact or event exists or is happening “now.” God could only know, for instance, that it rains on October third, 2005. He could not know that it is “now” raining or that it had rained “then,” since these are tensed facts.
As Christian philosopher William Lane Craig asserts, if God truly exists in a timelessly eternal present in which a single day lasts forever to him, “then God would not only be grossly mistaken, since today only lasts 24 hours, but worse He would not even know what day in the history of the world really is present, since they would all run together in His experience.” Such a low view of God’s knowledge and foreknowledge is surely inconsistent with the biblical witness.
Given these insurmountable doctrinal difficulties with the idea of God’s timelessness, is there another option? Craig offers us one:
By virtue of his creating a temporal world, God comes into a relation with that world the moment it springs into being. Thus, even if it is not the case that God is temporal prior to his creation of the world, he undergoes an extrinsic change at the moment of creation which draws him into time in virtue of his real relation to the world (God and Time: Four View, 65).
In addition:
Given a dynamic theory of time, it follows from God’s creative activity in the temporal world and his complete knowledge of it that God is temporal. God quite literally exists now. Since God never begins to exist nor ever ceases to exist, it follows that God is omnitemporal. He exists at every time that ever exists (141).
Hence, without experiencing any internal change, God enters time at creation and continues to exist fully present at every moment in time throughout the history of the world. I believe that this view, called “Omnitemporality,” offers an explanation of God’s relationship to time that comports much better with our view of a God who is both transcendent and immanent, who is both sovereign in creation and omniscient, who “in the fullness of time” entered into human experience and “dwelt among us,” and who has gone before us to prepare a place for us to dwell with him for time eternal.
Blessings,
Arnie Gentile
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Arnie,
Thank you for the great article. You are a great logician. I couldn't make it far into the article, however, without noticing that reason seems to be your guiding light.
I am increasingly distrustful of sources of truth that are dependent on human-centered sense and reason. I think the BIble is clear that God's logic appears to us at times to be complete nonsense.
What I don't 'get' is the effort of logicians to somehow make it more rationally compelling. Isn't it obvious that the 'logic' of God was more relational rather than descriptive? In other words, instead of delivering to us the string theory parsed out for our scientists, God gave us the person of Jesus - who was Himself a personification of the Law. It is clearly presence that God prefers and not precepts.
So I wonder why we have to continue to pursue a course of 'fighting fire with fire' among those who are skeptical. Isn't the glorious oddity of the faith (what Paul called 'foolishness', enough?)
Thanks for your comments.
John Wilkinson
http://noargumentforgod.blogspot.com/
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Hi, John,
Thanks for stopping by. Christianity is a little weird, isn't it? Angels and devils, resurrections and exorcisms, visions and prophecy, virgin births and suns stopping in the sky, divine incarnations and voices from heaven.... Yikes! Nonetheless, I do not believe that our faith "eludes"reason or is inherently illogical. I find it interesting that at your blog, you invoke the cosmological argument and engage in a little historical criticism to argue for the historicity of the Bible. I wonder why we should bother. Why not just have "faith"?
I would argue that just as faith without works is dead, faith without reason is futile (1 Cor 15:17). If there are really logical contradictions in the Bible, then the Bible is of no use to us. The Trinity and the Incarnation do not present logical contradictions, as skeptics claim, but they do contain mystery beyond our ability to discern. This does not render Christianity an irrational faith or the logic of God "complete nonsense."
I am flattered that you consider me a "great" logician! Be that as it may, I consider Jesus the greatest logician. His argumentation is unparalleled. The Apostle Paul employs logic and reason unceasingly in defending the faith. Our abilities to reason and employ logic are features of minds that reflect God's image. The basic laws of logic that exist innately in our minds and our intuitive sense of moral precepts are evidence of a God who is himself the origin of logic and moral law.
Jesus claimed to be the fulfillment of the Law, but at the same time proclaimed that not even a single punctuation mark within it would pass away. Hence, it would seem that it is both presence and precepts that God prefers. He has delivered his Word both in writing and in Person. Certainly the Bible and the inner witness of the Holy Spirit are sufficient for salvation. One does not need to know the Cosmological argument to be a Christian. But our faith is under attack from generation to generation, and in each generation there are those who have been called to "have the backs," as it were, of those in the pews. We are called to demonstrate that it is rational to believe the truth claims of Christianity, and If anything, we have lost a robust view of the importance of this exercise that was shared by those such as Anselm and Aquinas.
Paul was speaking in hyperbole when he spoke of the "foolishness" of God in 1 Cor 1:25. God is really neither foolish nor weak. And we are to be fools for God only in our zeal for him. Neither is our faith "foolishness" nor should we who believe be "foolish" intellectually. We are to be prepared to give an answer and to contend for the faith. We are to love our God with all our minds. And we do this by learning how to reason well that we may be confident in our conversations with the unconverted of the rational basis for what we believe.
Here's a link to a video on my blog by J.P. Moreland that lays out what I would agree to be the priorities of the church as we move further into the 21st century.
http://mychristianapologetics.com/2009/10/09/kingdom-triangle.aspx
Blessings, John,
Arnie
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